gorby is as you know a long time fader.. visited the convention this weekend.. and concluded that samuel herds talk about hope was not so bad at all, it was well balanced.
made some good points.. knowing both sides of the medallion, have to admit he was humble with a focus on hope.. the saturday drama impressed me.
of course, there is a lot to say about the organization, this professional produced movie in a "true story" scenario, gave me the insight that hope is important for suffering people.
Now Gorby you know the warnings about bad association! But credit where credit is due.
All religion is about hope because there is little or no evidence of any reality connected to it except seeing the lives and activities of fellow believers. It sort of convinces the believer that hoping the same thing with others will make make it come true.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5180544467861504/orwellian-doomsday-cult-use-hope
i need wt quotes where wt goes fully out and: .
demonizes the internet, .
witnesses preaching on the internet.
The truly zealous pioneer will sell BOTH his kidneys to keep up to date with Jah's chariot.
i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.
i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.
what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.
Everything we see or hear is mediated by our mysterious and fascinating brain. Our mind is capable of seeing the unseen and the unseeable...but it doesn't make it true.
hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
If you are over twelve years old and you still believe in Noah and a global flood... you have a lot of waking up and learning to do.
hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
It is infinitely better to know than to believe. Andromeda was chained to the rock of belief.
found this article in the about page on jw org.
i was a born in and was always taught charles taze russell was the founder.
guess i was wrong!
If the JW religion continues as a wealthy cult by teaching "the perpetual imminence of Christ's return"... it will always be necessary to cut off its actual roots since its doctrines only have a short shelf life when they can be perceived as being remotely credible by the faithful. (One can only be astonished at the transparent fraud of the "overlapping generation" excuse!)
They have denounced Russell which really only leaves the unsavoury scoundrel JF Rutherford as the founder, the one who introduced the term Jehovah's Witnesses---having borrowed that term from others.
If this is God's organization I would think God must be desperate to choose this lot.
hey, this thread is nothing new so i don't wanna get too personal but i'm happy to announce that i am apart of the 33% club!!
i sent in my da letter this past wednesday (again actually, i sent it in the week before but i got hit with the old 'return to sender') and i sent the letter up to the hq instead.
i did courteously mark it as re: disassociation for whatever lackey got it, but i did request in the letter not be contacted.
Well done thoughtless, but actually you sound more thoughtful to have the need to declare your departure from the cult.
I do suggest you make the best of your education... not only can it be a meal ticket for life but a satisfaction that you can know you are dealing with the real world and bringing reason to all you do...(unless you are studying frisbee decoration!)
hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
Welcome to the site and congratulations in having the courage to post here and think independently. I also enjoyed your last point!
I agree with Diogenesister to keep researching. Like you Andromeda, I never in my twenty five year run as a JW believed that the scriptures pinpointed 1914, it just did not gel. I also had to rationalise that the Biblical flood was just a story or world myth and not a factual event...it could not possibly have happened since there is not a trace of evidence for a global flood at that time or at anytime for that matter. And so it went on... yet Jesus believed in the flood but it could not have happened? Adam and eve are clearly mythical since according to scientific evidence Homo sapiens have been walking the Earth for at least one hundred and fifty thousand years having descended from yet earlier kinds of human.
So however much you read the Bible, neither can you nor anyone else make a coherent or watertight explanation of it all let alone making a case to keep one day a week holy.
So Andromeda, like your namesake, don't be tied to that terrible rock forever but get rescued by understanding that we are not bound to anything written in the Bible, both it and religion is a human practice devised to keep the superstitious under control.
Become yourself and learn the truth about "the truth".
so i was reading genesis chapter 10 and 11 to see how it explains the man who supposedly is the offspring of noah and he and his offspring become the nation known as egypt.
in some bibles they actually call him egypt.
well as i was reading chapter 10 i noticed something.
Which ever way you look at it it's a fantasy since Noah is only a character in a tall story. He and his sons never existed just like Romulus and Remus the founders of Rome never existed.
It does seem that folk tales were written down which formed the basis of many Bible texts and that very process in itself elevated the tale to a mystical or even sacred status because to illiterate people, written inscriptions were lofty truths.
Both peasants and priests were subject to the magic power of written language.
good morning i hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
there has been a lot of talk about the "new light" concerning the generation teaching.
it's been a major part of the prophecy concerning the last days and of course since jws are the only ones able to decipher and understand prophecy it is of great importance to get this main prophecy right.
Get used to the fact that the Bible is completely useless in predicting anything.
It was a piece of cult propaganda in the first place and was only ever only useful in manipulating the uneducated and superstitious.
